Hi @Glisten @Gremlin24 I really resonated with your thoughts on the difficulty of treating ourselves with the same kindness we extend to others. I,t's so true that we often aren't taught how to nurture ourselves, then there's society - especially for women, can make this more of a problem.

People here know of my troubled upbringing - in this site with us older women many would relate to this - 

My mum told my brother's they can bring teenage girls back to their bedroom but I was to stay a virgin. There are many worse stories than mine. 

@Gremlin24 @saturnzoon @Appleblossom 

The idea of giving until there's nothing left is  something many of us can relate to. On this topic, I listen to an Audible book called "Mind Magic" by Dr. James Doty, a neurologist. I actually purchase them for my friends. I listen to it while I'm asleep too. He talks about the importance of being as compassionate and authentic to ourselves as we would be to someone who is ill. Are you able to think like this @Gremlin24 ? It's okay if your not there.....

Think about it – when someone is physically unwell, we naturally offer them understanding, patience, and gentle care. Why shouldn't we extend that same grace to ourselves, especially when we're not strong ? we are all vulnerable here !! It's about recognizing our own vulnerabilities and needs with the same empathy we offer others. It's not about  self-referencing or bring self involved but about acknowledging our humanity and realising we  deserve kindness. I feel that our stories, at our age the ones we share about our struggles and triumphs, both teach a new way of being empathetic. They offer others a model for self-care and compassion. I believe that you have brought up your adult children like this. This empathy, this shift in how we treat ourselves and each other, is our gift to the world. I too sometimes wonder about those other versions of ourselves. But instead of just hoping for an easier life for her, I hope all versions of us find the strength and wisdom to treat themselves with the kindness they deserve. And I believe that by sharing our stories and supporting each other, we're making this world a better place for all men and women,